Vito Gesualdi drafts New Phyrexia for the first time in a month. Come and watch him stumble through this strange and bizarre format.
New Phyrexia Draft Video #14
– July 1, 2011Posted in: Videos
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Beast Within over Grim Affliction, because you want it for your collection? I would have liked an explanation, why you think this card is not awful in this format.
I’m fine with a bit of Rare drafting, but picking a bad uncommon P1P1 is a step too far for my tastes. Please don’t do it, it’s not even close to sensible economically.
Did you first two commenters not have sound? I’m not saying it was a fabulous p1p1 pick, but he did give an explanation beyond collecting…wtf. I think artillerize is better, but gimmie a break…he said things like “this is my 3rd ever NPH draft” “I haven’t played magic in a month” and “I guess I wish I would’ve taken artillerize instead of beast within.”
I wouldn’t have done many things that were done in this draft, but…wow. Real criticism is nice instead of the equivalent of covering your ears and yelling “LA LA LA WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT YOU IDIOT LALALALALALA”
Given the beast within and exarch picks, souleater over fresh meat. You can see how the 2/2 unblockable quickly becomes a problem if its controller has any defense and an extra island. I think slash panther over the hulk next pick as well.
Phyrexia’s core randomly tabled, which is cool…don’t ignore it. It increases wellspring value and can make spells randomly fizzle on your dudes and prevent opponents from drawing cards or proliferating or whatever. Of course you immediately opened spine as well…haha. Not saying spine over marauder is the pick, but it’s another example. In fact, marauder is probably the pick since there was really no pack 1 blue for anatomist.
I think the serum raker pick and shift to blue is something I wouldn’t have done. The white stuff had potential at that point (norn’s annex eats removal if nothing else) and there wasn’t much blue p1. Plus, wellspring is a fine pick if you don’t ignore the land and the fact that you can beast within it for a 3/3 and a card.
In hindsight, p3 opening vol. reins and nothing cool for white makes what I just said look bad, but I still think it was the better move…anyone agree?
Hmm, I guess white wasn’t open at all either…I dunno white seems to get crazy cut hard in this format.
Like I don’t mean to sound rude, but I couldn’t watch after you picked Cathedral Membrane over Souleater, Leeching bite etc etc.
I watch these draft videos to learn from players that are better than me, so it kind of sucks when you watch a video where the player doesn’t know the format at all. I feel like you should learn how to draft it before starting to post up videos.
Thats just how I feel, some people may just find it entertaining but I watch you guys to learn, and I’m not learning anything with a 2nd pick Cathedral membrane :)
I also stopped watching after you picked a Cathedral Membrane over Reaper of Sheoldred (or Blinding Souleater…Master Decoy is good in -every- format). I mean, come on, even if you dont know the format now, at least you must realize that a 2/5 infect with a good ability and resilience in combat is quite a bit more powerful than a durdle-ing wall, and with your first pick Beast Within, puts you on a possible path to G/B infect?
I watch these videos to learn as well, and I always get excited when another one is put up, so please don’t let your loyal fans down with below average drafting.
I don’t see why you didn’t kill the sword with Beast Within. Sure you give him a 3/3 token but you don’t lose to mil. Is what I would of done in that situation.
P1P1 Grim Affliction or Artillerize was the pick. Beast Within is a good sideboard card only if your opponent has a bomb that is hard to deal with. I would never maindeck it or especially take it over a high value removal spell like the Affliction or Artillerize. The only other pick that could have been defensible P1P1 would be Blighted Agent. The Cathedral Membrane pick was god awful…
most people have expressed their annoyance with a reasonable demeanor. So the responsibility to post in a childish way falls to me. Beast within p1p1? UNINSTALL MTGO!!! Pick up knitting, sure, you’ll fuck that up too, but you shouldn’t be posting those on youtube (a lot like these garbage draft videos). uberphail!! CAPS!! and such..
this entire draft was extremely painful to watch…. why was this posted?
I appreciate what you guys are doing here and I never like when people say “stopped watching after herpa herpa” buuut wow. This one was hard to watch haha.
Thanks anyways for the content and effort :)
haha the ending sentence was classic. “color screwed but what you gonna do”. MULLLLLLIGAN.
@Maskirovka I hope, you see this: I did watch with sound. I do realize, that he did not draft for a while. He still does not say a word, why he thinks Affliction is not the pick. And he should have explained, why a removal, where the opp gets a beast is better then one, where you get to sac a permanent.
There were other weak picks, but this one is particularly baffling.
@Daniel Maybe it’s just me but I think black is relatively weak in this format. There’s always tons of removal but the rest of what you can draft is pretty unreliable IMO. Not saying you can’t splash black for removal, but I don’t like grabbing p1p1 black cards. I would have taken artillerize.
Please don’t give the “you 2 for 1 yourself” argument with artillerize. It’s not a good argument. 5 damage is 5 damage…when you’re removing a 5 toughness card or burning your opponent for 5, you’re getting a more value for your game from the 2 cards used than just strictly the number of cards used to complete the task.
Beast Within on your own myr syre, wellspring, depleted tumble magnet, an extra land late game, their 6/6 flyer, etc is a reasonable topdeck compared to grim affliction depending on your deck.
I’m not saying he made the right choice or chose for the right reasons, I’m just saying I don’t think grim affliction is as strictly better than artillerize/beast within as a p1p1 pick.
Give the guy a break…you don’t like the content? Fine…post. I’m sure he wants hits on his website so he’d like to know what people like and don’t like. I just think people can be a little less insulting. These guys are putting themselves out there…cut ‘em just a little slack IMO.
As for the people who say “I don’t learn anything from watching picks like this” etc…yes you do. Learning what not to do is often better than learning some rule for what TO do.
@Maskirovka Black is definately not weak in this format. It has the best common creature in the set (Pith Driller), the best removal spells (Dismember and Grim Affliction and Pith Driller to some degree), the best rare chancellor, and the best praetor in limited. It also has the best mass removal spell in scars block in Life’s Finale for limited. Definately not weak in limited…
Not to mention Enslave…
@ Rich
I agree that black is not particularly weak in this format, however, I do think that you gave some pretty poor examples. Pith driller and dismember are phyrexian mana spells and can be played in any deck, in fact I rarely end up playing black but I always look very hard for pith driller and play it whenever I can because it is hands down my favorite common in the set. The black praetor is mythic rare and chancellor of the dross and lifes finale are both rare so you can never count on getting either one of them.
@rich, I had a similar discussion earlier this week.
You can’t measure a colors strength on its bombs. Sure you open a bomb, you move in, but you aren;t going to rely on it.
Dismember and Pith Driller aren’t black really, and they’re also not getting passed very far. Grim affliction is solid, but volt charge is almost surely better. Black does have the best removal overall spread between the sets, but most of it is splashable, and the non-infect common creatures are pretty terrible overall.
I just think that is what makes black so strong is because it is so flexible. Flexibility is important when picking a card from NPH (aside from the obvious bombs). I was just merely trying to point out that fact is all.
flexible in that you can it take its best non-rares and not actually play a single swamp? :oP
BAD DRAFTING! Cathedral Membrane sure dude. Sorry, but had to stop watching after these first two picks.
Well in a sense. If there isn’t a strong rare in the opening pack I almost always look for a pith driller or dismember. It maybe just me but I would take a pith driller over any other phyrexian mana guy in the set (Legionnaire, Panther, Thoptar, Tanadon). That may be wrong (and if it is please let me know) but for me the driller has outperformed any other of those guys. Also i’m not sure what other uncommon I would take over dismember (outside of maybe Act of Aggression, and if that’s wrong too please let me know). I just think black has the most powerful of the flexible cards.
no, I agree with you on both dismember and pith driller (though i think legionnaire is close) but I just dont agree that ether card has much to do with playing black.
That’s exactly my point. Cards like the Legionnaire, Thundering Tanadon, and Blinding Souleater usually want to put you into those colors (there are some exceptions for the Legionnaire as in aggressive decks of other colors and I agree he is next best). For example, you really don’t want to play the Tanadon outside of green because in my opinion the life cost is a bit much to pay for an artifact. Same with blinding souleater, you really at least want 2-3 plains in your deck when you play him otherwise it adds up. The black phyrexian mana spells and guys are the only ones you would consistently play in every deck even if you weren’t black which makes them stronger first picks than the rest of the phyrexian mana guys and spells.
@Rich, I also agree with you when you’re limiting the discussion to the other phyrexian mana commons. Pith driller is indeed an excellent card, but taking it doesn’t mean you’ve made a “black pick”, and that wasn’t the original point anyway. The choice in this case was a non-phyrexian black removal spell vs. a green or red choice.
Like Solebush (Josh) said, black is fine…you open a bomb and you can make it work…but we’re talking P1P1 with no bomb and 3 removal choices. Is taking the black one the best idea given the quality and reliability of the non-removal non-infect choices you’re gonna get later?
I think the answer is no. That’s what makes black relatively weak IMO. Sure when you discuss all the possibilities, the are clearly a pile of excellent black cards to be had in this block. But, when you think about the order the packs come in and the rarity of those cards, I think it lowers the value of black in as a first pick when there isn’t a bomb.
So, back to the original thing, if I open the same pack as Vito, I’m taking the artillerize over grim affliction. I’d take volt charge, leeching bite, etc, over grim affliction as well, though grim affliction vs. beast within would be close…both require other stuff to happen before they become as good as the other spells are alone.
I like to see different cards get played even though they are considered strictly worse. Forgemaster would combo with fresh meat and myr sires. Steal some wins.